Craig Ramsay Open Thread: Maple Leafs at Sabres
There are many ways one can measure a hockey player. Goals, assists, points, plus-minus, goals against; the list goes on and on.
But sometimes you have to go a little bit off the board when measuring someone who is easily one of the greatest Sabre forwards ever, Craig Ramsay.
Drafted 19th overall in 1971, his career spanned 15 seasons, 1,070 NHL games, and a place on the ice for every great Sabres moment that happened up until 1986. Craig Ramsay was the best defensive forward in Sabres history (my apologies to Don Luce, but his career was not as long) and also chipped in plenty on the offensive end despite playing on the defensive “shutdown” line almost exclusively in his career. Just look at these point totals:
- 1972-73 28 points (9th in team scoring)
- 1973-74 46 points (T-6)
- 1974-75 64 points (7th)
- 1975-76 71 points (5th)
- 1976-77 61 points (5th)
- 1977-78 71 points (4th)
- 1978-79 57 points (5th)
- 1979-80 60 points (T-5)
- 1980-81 58 points (6th)
- 1981-82 51 points (8th)
- 1982-83 29 points (14) Just 64 games that year
- 1983-84 26 points (14)
- 1984-85 33 points (10th)
And here’s where he stands overall among Buffalo’s all-time leaders:
- Games Played 2nd – 1,070
- Goals 5th – 252
- Game Winning Goals 8th – 32
- Assists 3rd – 420
- Points 4th – 672
- Short Handed Goals 1st – 27
- Game Tying Goals 4th – 15
- Shots 8th – 1,479
After looking at that I suppose my only question is why his number isn’t retired. You may find some Sabres ranking ahead of him in individual categories, but there is nobody ranked so consistently high in every category who doesn’t have his number in the rafters. And there are a few (Danny Gare, Rene Robert, Pat LaFontaine) who are looking up at him in many categories.
Plus, he signed an autograph for me at a Mobil station when I was 11-years-old. So take that, Rene Robert!
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Thank you Leafs TV for stunning HD.
I finally make it here for an open thread and no one’s here??
me too, finally got a laptop tray thingy for my lap.
Well we’ll just have us a little party then, just the two of us!
that a boy millsy, now get them away from him D.
Look at Kennedy showing some spunk!
what do they say on the nhl hockey 2010 video game commercial with the 3 women, oh yeah, it’s a party all right. i have the beer and pretzels.
yeah! Why isn’t craig ramsay’s number retired? I would think he would be next on the list by now.
My first open thread of the season! Small crowd tonight.
all right boys, let’s get one.
SCOOOOOORE!
yeah baby and he’s on my fantasy team to boot. as is miller. like the 5 forward approach.
Man the Leafs suck at not taking penalties.
Whoops. Toronto has forgotten they’re supposed to play with 5 guys.
good job by the leafs, credit where credit is due.
who woke hecht up tonight.
I need to commission a study on how often the Sabres score when I am tucking my kids into bed. I swear, it’s every time. Who scored?
Oooops… I need to go back to tucking kids in! That sucked!
oops
Have some more kids Wolf so you can tuck them in all night.
stafford
Don’t say that too loud, 289. Mrs. Wolf might hear and she’s definitely got the bug again.
JD – Stafford scored?? Really? My heart just went pitter-pat!
yes he did, wide open side on a 5-3.
man, that columbus crowd is rabid tonight against the pens. i swear i see some of them foaming at the mouth. bob errey’s whining is driving me nuts tho.
By “Columbus Crowd”, do you mean both of them?
no it’s packed and tons of pens fans though to fill it out.
don’t boo at “go leafs go” – make more noise than them – sheesh.
atta boy ryan.
Wow! I had no idea MacArthur had that kind of speed!
he’s very quick.
TIMMMMMMMAAAAAYYYYYYYYY
sweet.
Man was THAT a sweet pass!
I’m just happy Timmay didn’t injure himself taking that wrist shot!
i have to get one of those 3rd jerseys when i come home for thanksgiving. i have heard that will be the permanent jersey next year? yes, no?
JD – I don’t know, but that’d be awesome if they were. I’m really wanting one, too!
Yes… but it’s a closely guarded secret that Larry has let out of the bag time and time again.
LOL, I am going to the Carolina game and will have to go to the Sabres store. Maybe I’ll make a couple bets to cover the cost. Wait, I’d have to actually win a bet first. Thinking of getting Myers as I have Miller. Since Myers better spend his entire career in Buffalo.
I’m gun shy about buying jerseys these days. No one stays here for very long.
I take into account who should be here longest. Always a crap shoot.
I might have to pull the trigger on a Stafford jersey though
Miller’s clearly made the difference tonite
How many more penalties do you think the league is going to give the Laffs tonight?
Friday night, The Leafs at Buffalo, its late October and I’m not freezing my ass off when I go outside…life is good.
High stick
Gotta go to Toronto. Why? It’s the Leaves, it’s good.
its not how you win, but if you win.
Tiiiiimmaaay
First hockey sweater I owned back in the early 80s was Ramsay’s…one of my fave Sabres of all time.