Comments on: The Livery

By: Kim

Kim — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:49:36 +0000

I find it interesting and rather disappointing that the activist website mentions nothing about the history of the building; when was it used, for what purpose, by whom etc.

It would help causes like this one if historical references were revealed and highlighted once in a while.

By: john

john — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:15:43 +0000

get over it. Your signs are just abusive and you better wwatch out.

The bldgs doneweee get over it

By: spike

spike — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:43:27 +0000

hudson the only thing that sucks are your sources, maybe you should stop hanging out at the has-been greasy italian tavern and you would of known about fran a week ago. look in your own past issues at all the wonderfull things you wrote about her before, but now shes working for bruce’s pal and your afraid to say anything bad. you should write a book about her brother, he was way more interesting than your old mob boss stories.

By: reflip

reflip — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:25:39 +0000

Let me get this straight. I’m supposed to believe that:

20 years ago the neighbors were so all-powerful that they could get the City to place a kibosh on a proposed project.

Now the neighbors are so impotent that the City for years ignores their pleas to do something about this derelict building and irresponsible property-owner until the building literally comes crashing down around them.

Doesn’t add up.

It also leads me to believe that the (powerful, influential) neighbors of 20 years ago are gone and the new neighbors had nothing to do with the kibosh.

Hence, they have every right to be pissed.

What about that guy who recently bought a FLW house and had plans to turn it into a rental property but was stopped by the neighbors. Does he now have the right to let the house decay and crumble for the next 20 years out of spite? Would that too be considered “poetic justice” as you are advocating here?

By: Colin

Colin — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:56:03 +0000

20 years ago, I was 12. I don’t think anything that happened then stops me from doing anything.

In the interim, Freudenheim has let the building rot and refused to sell it. My realtor had another client who made an offer on the building, but he wouldn’t budge from his price. He wasn’t “stuck with” anything. This situation is the result of his choices.

By: Buffalo Pundit » Blog Archive » The Doctrine of Estoppel

Buffalo Pundit » Blog Archive » The Doctrine of Estoppel — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:24:29 +0000

[...] a follow-up on the Livery Building post, Bill Altreuter posts a comment: Notwithstanding the rapid degeneration of this comment [...]

By: Buffalopundit

Buffalopundit — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:13:44 +0000

@Bill Altreuter – if that’s true, then it seems as if the neighbors are somewhat estopped from complaining now.

By: Bill Altreuter

Bill Altreuter — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:48:34 +0000

Notwithstanding the rapid degeneration of this comment string (and what’s up with that?) I thought I’d mention that I did a little digging and learned that about 20 years ago the Freudenheim’s planned on converting the building into apartments or condos. They were frustrated in this when the neighbors objected and got the city to put the kibosh on the project. (Parking was what the basis for the kvetching was.)

The Freudenheim’s have been stuck with this white elephant ever since.

By: Chris Crocker

Chris Crocker — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:47:24 +0000

Leave Freudy alone ! LEAVE HIM ALONE !

By: Chris Smith

Chris Smith — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:04:05 +0000

I’m not claiming that preservationist groups are responsible for the failure to save every building in Buffalo. Nor am I claiming that there haven’t been significant contributions from the preservation community, that’s not the point.

We have a vacuum of leadership in Buffalo that has led us to where we are today. I am suggesting that instead of laying blame on specific interests, politicians, owners, developers, or activists we design a plan in which we ALL own the issue of preservation in this city. Of course, there are those who wish to cast this discussion as a blame game or whatever, it isn’t. It’s about getting our collective shit organized in this town.