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		<title>By: Buffalo Pundit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Higgins versus Dan the Tan Man</title>
		<link>http://wnymedia.net/wnymedia/buffalopundit/2008/07/chris-lees-views-pablum/comment-page-1/#comment-22898</link>
		<dc:creator>Buffalo Pundit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Higgins versus Dan the Tan Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Too bad Cheney snubbed you a few years ago!). Chris Lee, Republican running in the 26th, is the unemployed scion of a formerly locally-owned manufacturing concern which was sold out for megabucks to a New Jersey [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Too bad Cheney snubbed you a few years ago!). Chris Lee, Republican running in the 26th, is the unemployed scion of a formerly locally-owned manufacturing concern which was sold out for megabucks to a New Jersey [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Smiles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson Smiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russell,

You were refuting my statement, in debating 101 you were saying my statement was wrong, thus the opposite must be true. You also mentioned they were well off (i didn&#039;t waste my time going back to get your exact words).

I&#039;m getting as &quot;nit picky&quot; as you are. You say &quot;as someone who endorses Johnny&quot; - You didn&#039;t seem to mention the endorsement until your incorrect statement made earlier in the day was first attacked. You also tried to twist words implying that if Clark says a war record only doesn&#039;t qualify you for congress, then those with war records (ie: Powers) must not be qualified for Congress.

Once again you prove yourself as the poster child for Pro-Choice abortion rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell,</p>
<p>You were refuting my statement, in debating 101 you were saying my statement was wrong, thus the opposite must be true. You also mentioned they were well off (i didn&#8217;t waste my time going back to get your exact words).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting as &#8220;nit picky&#8221; as you are. You say &#8220;as someone who endorses Johnny&#8221; &#8211; You didn&#8217;t seem to mention the endorsement until your incorrect statement made earlier in the day was first attacked. You also tried to twist words implying that if Clark says a war record only doesn&#8217;t qualify you for congress, then those with war records (ie: Powers) must not be qualified for Congress.</p>
<p>Once again you prove yourself as the poster child for Pro-Choice abortion rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smiley, scroll up and look at my post from 7/1/08 at 11:55am.  I state right there for everyone to see that Wes Clark endorsed Jonny.  I have no idea how many times you think I need to post it, but there it is.  I did mention it.

I have no idea why you&#039;re asking that question about serving in Congress without pay.  BP seemed to have a problem with taxpayers paying a salary to a millionaire heir, namely Chris Lee.  I merely commented on that and asked why his concern doesn&#039;t apply to any others in Congress that fit that bill.  I have no idea where you&#039;re getting my qualifications for being rich from.

I never said they were all rich.  You really need to stop putting words in my mouth.  I merely said none of them were poor which is even a step lower than your acknowledgement of prominence.

These are not questions of semantics or nit picking.  You&#039;re saying I said things I didn&#039;t say or I didn&#039;t say things I did say.  You have some serious problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smiley, scroll up and look at my post from 7/1/08 at 11:55am.  I state right there for everyone to see that Wes Clark endorsed Jonny.  I have no idea how many times you think I need to post it, but there it is.  I did mention it.</p>
<p>I have no idea why you&#8217;re asking that question about serving in Congress without pay.  BP seemed to have a problem with taxpayers paying a salary to a millionaire heir, namely Chris Lee.  I merely commented on that and asked why his concern doesn&#8217;t apply to any others in Congress that fit that bill.  I have no idea where you&#8217;re getting my qualifications for being rich from.</p>
<p>I never said they were all rich.  You really need to stop putting words in my mouth.  I merely said none of them were poor which is even a step lower than your acknowledgement of prominence.</p>
<p>These are not questions of semantics or nit picking.  You&#8217;re saying I said things I didn&#8217;t say or I didn&#8217;t say things I did say.  You have some serious problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Smiles</title>
		<link>http://wnymedia.net/wnymedia/buffalopundit/2008/07/chris-lees-views-pablum/comment-page-1/#comment-22895</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson Smiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lil&#039; Russie-poo - how does serving in Congress without pay mean you are rich? I&#039;m still confused by that one. And owning land doesn&#039;t make you rich, perhaps prominent, but not rich. I own 10 acres of land... doesn&#039;t mean I am rich.

If we&#039;re going to pick things apart, I didn&#039;t &quot;admit&quot; I asked the same childish question that you asked, I said I had asked them - refering to asking them about Jon and if he would be eligable to be hired there. Your comment wasn&#039;t even really a question more of a demeaning statement showing your inept ability to be a dumb ass. I do believe it&#039;s a worth question to ask of Mr. Powers&#039; eligability for the position, but I don&#039;t believe because he decided to expand his goal he should be scrutinized for not becoming a full time teacher.

Last but not least get some glasses :
&quot;Clark doesn’t feel that just a war record soley qualifies you to run for Congress, but it certainly helps.
Clark obviously feels that Powers is more than a war record.&quot;

That was from my original post about Clark&#039;s endorsement of Powers, which included how you failed to mention the endorsement itself and again shows my point that Clark feels that Powers is more than a war record.

Thanks again for being a complete idiot and help those on here see that you have absolutely no idea what you&#039;re talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lil&#8217; Russie-poo &#8211; how does serving in Congress without pay mean you are rich? I&#8217;m still confused by that one. And owning land doesn&#8217;t make you rich, perhaps prominent, but not rich. I own 10 acres of land&#8230; doesn&#8217;t mean I am rich.</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re going to pick things apart, I didn&#8217;t &#8220;admit&#8221; I asked the same childish question that you asked, I said I had asked them &#8211; refering to asking them about Jon and if he would be eligable to be hired there. Your comment wasn&#8217;t even really a question more of a demeaning statement showing your inept ability to be a dumb ass. I do believe it&#8217;s a worth question to ask of Mr. Powers&#8217; eligability for the position, but I don&#8217;t believe because he decided to expand his goal he should be scrutinized for not becoming a full time teacher.</p>
<p>Last but not least get some glasses :<br />
&#8220;Clark doesn’t feel that just a war record soley qualifies you to run for Congress, but it certainly helps.<br />
Clark obviously feels that Powers is more than a war record.&#8221;</p>
<p>That was from my original post about Clark&#8217;s endorsement of Powers, which included how you failed to mention the endorsement itself and again shows my point that Clark feels that Powers is more than a war record.</p>
<p>Thanks again for being a complete idiot and help those on here see that you have absolutely no idea what you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: lulu</title>
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		<dc:creator>lulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russell, It is clear to me that your &quot;assholey&quot; tendencies are more attributable to the way you disregard other site commenters&#039; attempts to draw more discussion out of you rather than due to your beliefs/comments, themselves.  Referring to the semantics and grammar and exact words used is juvenile and would not hold water in a face to face discussion.  Many important issues are discussed on this site, and the way in which you respond to requests for more in depth support for some of your claims is where I find you the most &quot;assholey.&quot;

Enjoy picking this one apart, I expect it.  (An FYI: I am now done commenting in this thread)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell, It is clear to me that your &#8220;assholey&#8221; tendencies are more attributable to the way you disregard other site commenters&#8217; attempts to draw more discussion out of you rather than due to your beliefs/comments, themselves.  Referring to the semantics and grammar and exact words used is juvenile and would not hold water in a face to face discussion.  Many important issues are discussed on this site, and the way in which you respond to requests for more in depth support for some of your claims is where I find you the most &#8220;assholey.&#8221;</p>
<p>Enjoy picking this one apart, I expect it.  (An FYI: I am now done commenting in this thread)</p>
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		<title>By: mike hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and nine of the signers were definitely brother masons -- meaning that contemporary records of their initiations and elevations still exist -- and another 11 are thought to be -- meaning the formal records have been lost over the past 232 years.

now what the hell does any of this have to do with anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and nine of the signers were definitely brother masons &#8212; meaning that contemporary records of their initiations and elevations still exist &#8212; and another 11 are thought to be &#8212; meaning the formal records have been lost over the past 232 years.</p>
<p>now what the hell does any of this have to do with anything?</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said before Smiley, you admitted you asked the question yourself, so I don&#039;t understand why you have such a problem with me asking the question.

Secondly, you did not merely point out Clark&#039;s feelings.  You told me I must have missed the fact that Clark endorsed Powers.  Nice try spinning that but the words are not invisible and previous posts do not disappear each time you post.  What you said to me is still up there and my statement that Clark endorsed Powers is still there as well.  If you can, try to give all of that another read.

Finally, your posting about the signers of the Declaration of Independence does not refute anything I said.  I never said they were &quot;extremely rich&quot; and your post shows that all of them, even the farmers, were well-off.  Yes, they risked their fortunes and some of them were stripped of life and liberty and their possessions, but at the time they served, they were not poor by any stretch, just like I said.  Thank you for backing me up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said before Smiley, you admitted you asked the question yourself, so I don&#8217;t understand why you have such a problem with me asking the question.</p>
<p>Secondly, you did not merely point out Clark&#8217;s feelings.  You told me I must have missed the fact that Clark endorsed Powers.  Nice try spinning that but the words are not invisible and previous posts do not disappear each time you post.  What you said to me is still up there and my statement that Clark endorsed Powers is still there as well.  If you can, try to give all of that another read.</p>
<p>Finally, your posting about the signers of the Declaration of Independence does not refute anything I said.  I never said they were &#8220;extremely rich&#8221; and your post shows that all of them, even the farmers, were well-off.  Yes, they risked their fortunes and some of them were stripped of life and liberty and their possessions, but at the time they served, they were not poor by any stretch, just like I said.  Thank you for backing me up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Smiles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson Smiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russell -

If you&#039;d like a reading comprehension lesson - your &quot;assholey&quot; description applies to your comment not directly to you as it is written. So I just wanted to clarify that you sir are an asshole.

You also make a point to refute BP&#039;s comments by using Wes Clarks comments:

You brought up Powers’ war record as a qualification for office and I merely responded to that with what your personal hero had to say about war records.

In the above comment and string of comments you do not mentioned Clark&#039;s endorsement of Powers. So there was nothing to &quot;misread&quot; unless you have invisible words. I simply pointed out that if Clark feels a war record isn&#039;t going to magically qualify you to be elected, yet still feels Mr. Powers is the right candidate, then surely he feels Mr. Powers has more than just a war record.

And you were right... it doesn&#039;t anywhere state that being a history teacher was Mr. Powers&#039; dream job, simply his goal upon returning from Iraq. Did you ever have a goal that changed or improved?

Dale Ernhart, JR had a goal of being a country music singer. Instead he became one of the best Nascar racers ever... I guess he must be a complete failure for not achieving his goal by your logic.

Again... you&#039;re a dumb ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell -</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like a reading comprehension lesson &#8211; your &#8220;assholey&#8221; description applies to your comment not directly to you as it is written. So I just wanted to clarify that you sir are an asshole.</p>
<p>You also make a point to refute BP&#8217;s comments by using Wes Clarks comments:</p>
<p>You brought up Powers’ war record as a qualification for office and I merely responded to that with what your personal hero had to say about war records.</p>
<p>In the above comment and string of comments you do not mentioned Clark&#8217;s endorsement of Powers. So there was nothing to &#8220;misread&#8221; unless you have invisible words. I simply pointed out that if Clark feels a war record isn&#8217;t going to magically qualify you to be elected, yet still feels Mr. Powers is the right candidate, then surely he feels Mr. Powers has more than just a war record.</p>
<p>And you were right&#8230; it doesn&#8217;t anywhere state that being a history teacher was Mr. Powers&#8217; dream job, simply his goal upon returning from Iraq. Did you ever have a goal that changed or improved?</p>
<p>Dale Ernhart, JR had a goal of being a country music singer. Instead he became one of the best Nascar racers ever&#8230; I guess he must be a complete failure for not achieving his goal by your logic.</p>
<p>Again&#8230; you&#8217;re a dumb ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Smiles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson Smiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russell,

I have a break down for you on some of those &quot;extremely rich&quot; people who formed this country. Of the 56 or so people who signed the Declaration of Independence:

(warning note... I &quot;borrowed&quot; someones research on this)


Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died.
Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.

Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.

Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.

They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and  their sacred honor.

What kind of men were they?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists.
Eleven were merchants,
Nine were farmers and large plantation owners, men of means, well educated, But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.

Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.

Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly.
He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding.
His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery,Hall, Clymer,Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

At the battle of Yorktown , Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the  Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged  General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.

John Hart was driven from his wife&#039;s bedside as she was dying.
Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste.
For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell,</p>
<p>I have a break down for you on some of those &#8220;extremely rich&#8221; people who formed this country. Of the 56 or so people who signed the Declaration of Independence:</p>
<p>(warning note&#8230; I &#8220;borrowed&#8221; someones research on this)</p>
<p>Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died.<br />
Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.</p>
<p>Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.</p>
<p>Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.</p>
<p>They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and  their sacred honor.</p>
<p>What kind of men were they?</p>
<p>Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists.<br />
Eleven were merchants,<br />
Nine were farmers and large plantation owners, men of means, well educated, But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.</p>
<p>Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.</p>
<p>Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly.<br />
He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding.<br />
His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.</p>
<p>Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery,Hall, Clymer,Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.</p>
<p>At the battle of Yorktown , Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the  Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged  General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.</p>
<p>Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.</p>
<p>John Hart was driven from his wife&#8217;s bedside as she was dying.<br />
Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste.<br />
For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished.</p>
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		<title>By: Buffalopundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buffalopundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I should call Chris Lee &quot;Chrissy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I should call Chris Lee &#8220;Chrissy&#8221;.</p>
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