Reason #2934 Why Jack Davis Won't Debate or Campaign
And here, starkly, is the primary reason why I find Jack Davis not only to be so unelectable, but a reprehensible and ignorant human being, to boot.
His utter and blatant hatred of immigrants.
Maybe down in the Southwest, he’d get loads of support for his anti-immigrant rantings, and he could join the minutemen on the barricades preventing Mexicans and Central Americans from coming here and busing your tables, vacuuming your offices, and picking your vegetables and fruit. But here? If there’s a border issue that affects Western New Yorkers, it’s the ham-handed efforts of the Bush Administration to handle security at the Canadian bridges.
That’s why, when asked a question about Canadian border policy at the debate in 2006 with Reynolds, Davis instantly went on an anti-Mexican, non-sequitur rant. The only thing missing was a pejorative.
Frankly, WNY only dreams of having immigrants move here.
It’s one thing to say you want to prevent illegal immigration and build a wall to keep Mexicans out. It’s another to say,
In the latter part of this century or the next, Mexicans will be a majority in many of the states and could therefore take control of the state government using the democratic process,” Davis said in the speech. “They could then secede from the United States, and then we might have another civil war.
Yeah, sheer idiocy.
I don’t know if Davis realizes this, but this is a nation of immigrants; some recent, some not. Some came legally, some didn’t. But immigration and immigrants are – and always have been – a net positive for the United States. Immigrants don’t come here to live off our welfare state and contribute nothing. They come to work hard and make a better life for the next generation. That’s something that’s been happening since 1620. To paint them as some sort of criminal drain on the economy is simply sad. Davis said,
They have an allegiance to Mexico, where they were taught the U. S. fought an unjust war with Mexico and took this territory,” Davis said. “They believe the territory of these states belongs to Mexico.”
Davis did not name specific states that might be prone to succession.
But he appeared to be referring to Texas — which seceded from Mexico, briefly became an independent republic and then joined the United States — and the territories Mexico lost as a result of the Mexican-American War of 1846-48. California, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico and much of Colorado were all once Mexican territory, only to become U. S. states after the war.
Asked this week about his speech, Davis said he no longer believed Southern states would be prone to leaving the union in order to assert Mexican control over what is now U. S. territory.
“I think they’ll do it without a civil war,” he said. “They’ll take control of the state governments and start voting themselves anything they want.”
OMG – I think I see the black helicopters hovering right now! You know what’s interesting to me? There are very many illegal immigrants who come to the states from other places that don’t speak Spanish. There are loads of illegal Irish immigrants working as cooks and bartenders and construction workers in the Boston area. You never hear these immigration alarmists talk about that. Also, Davis is running to represent a New York district. New York has only 5% of all illegal immigrants in the US – about 540,000 people, which is a mere 2.84% out of New York’s population of 19 million.
Underscoring why he won’t debate on Hardwick’s show, Davis is trying to backtrack, which is hard when you clearly harbor animus towards the subject matter:
“My remarks at the Center were designed to bring urgency to the conversation,” he said in the statement. “I believe passionately in protecting our homeland and securing our borders. If my language was hyperbolic, the danger it described certainly is not.”
In the Thursday interview where he discussed the speech, Davis said he didn’t recall everything he had said in the speech.
But among the topics he discussed in the speech was his solution for the illegal immigration problem.
“I think building a double wall long the southern border is the least expensive long-term solution to maintaining the heritage of our fathers,” Davis said in the speech on YouTube.
Even more critical, from a purely political point of view, is the fact that Davis is running to “save jobs and farms”. So, what do local farmers in the district have to say about it? Check out this exchange:
Many Western New York farmers rely on migrant workers from Mexico to bring in the crops.
After hearing quotes from Davis’ speech, John Lincoln, the president of the New York Farm Bureau, said: “The farmers overall would be really concerned about his statement.”
Told what Lincoln said, Davis replied: “He’s not a regular farmer. He’s one of these big guys . . . I’d call him a multinational farmer.”
Lincoln, 70, is a dairy farmer with 200 head of cattle in Bloomfield, a village of 1,258 in Ontario County, southeast of Rochester. Asked if he had ever met Lincoln, Davis said he had not.
Davis doesn’t listen. He has pre-conceived notions, and can’t be bothered to hear anything contrary to them. This from a guy who wants to raise tariffs, which would actually harm his own company’s ability to sell product in all the countries listed here.
Here’s Jack Davis denigrating every immigrant from Mexico who ever came to this country – legal or illegal.
Three-issue Jack is filled with Fail.
And here he is trying desperately to debate someone and failing miserably at it:
Will Jack Davis show up on Hardwick’s show to debate his opponents? I doubt it. Jack Davis doesn’t think he needs to answer for any of his ugly views. He doesn’t need to talk about his three-issue platform. He’ll just buy people to tell you about it, or he’ll try to buy your vote.
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Heritage of our fathers?
I’m American Indian, am I included in Jacks plan?
How about my black friends?
I already know that my Latino friends aren’t…..
Ku Klux Jack at his finest.
I don’t know about any “civil war”, or sucession of states … but anyone who thinks that illegal immigration – particularly from Mexico – isn’t a huge problem for this country is fooling themselves.
Are you a citizen heavyweight ? Are your black friends citizens ? Are your latino friends sneaking over the border ? If not, then the answer is yes , you are included. Nice touch with the klan reference though.
Jack’s wife is an immigrant. Love the hypocracy. Oh, but he’s paying her way so I guess she falls into the “indentured servant” category.
Funny story how Jack met this wife. He put an ad out that said he was a rich man looking for a woman. Not a partner. Not someone to share his days and smell the flowers with. Nope. He needed a woman. That’s all the job description said. His respect for women is just slighty above that of his despised immigrants.
When the choice was Reynolds or Davis, well, duh. Anyone but the pedophile cover-upper Reynolds. Now, we actually have someone running who isn’t Yoda’s first cousin. Someone who cares about kids. Someone who is in tune and in touch with today’s world and the needs we all face here in WNY.
Can we get this over and vote already, PAHLEEEEASE?
RE: Farms. Someone might want to check in with Farm Wives United. There is an issue with MPCs I believe they are called – milk protein concentrates – and imported apples from China. So the farmers that resonate with Jack are concerned about free trade and unfair competition. Schumer and Clinton were fighting against Chinese apples too. So to be fair, Jack does see and understand a problem farmers in NYS have. It’s about free trade not immigrants.
Davis will make the trains run on time too!!
My question is if Jack’s positions on farms are so farmer friendly, then why aren’t the agricultural associations and organizations lining up behind him? In the Buffalo News story, the head of a farm bureau expresses only concern with Jack’s statements, or rather the out-of-touch nature of the comments. Only to have Jack accuse the guy of being a multinational. 200 cows is a small herd in New York State. That’s the definition of a family farm.
More than anything else, there’s a veneer of obliviousness over the Davis campaing.
This guy is a racist kook. Those comments have nothing to do with immigration. It is one thing to be tough on immigration. Gosh, I’m a liberal and I think that if we find illegal immigrants, they should be shipped out of the country immediately, but the fact is Jack Davis thinks we may have a CIVIL WAR with California!!!! This isn’t about immigration, it is about being f-ing NUTS.
Cue up, Guns-n-Roses Civil War off of Use Your Illusion. WE DON’T NEED JACK DAVIS’ CIVIL WAR!!!!!!!! IT FEEDS THE RICH WHILE IT BURY’S THE POOR. Great song.
illegal immigrant is the new Jew, just dont build the ovens in my backyard!!
Grumpy Gramps Davis should send an illegal immigrant to the debate since it’s obviously a job he doesn’t want to do.
Judging by the ad Davis keeps running, I’m glad that he won’t take any money from “spatial interests”. People interested in spatial stuff have too much influence in politics already!
““I think they’ll do it without a civil war,” he said. “They’ll take control of the state governments and start voting themselves anything they want.””
Uh. Am I missing something here or isn’t this how democracy is suppose to work?
Splett is right on! I guess Jack Davis thinks that Democracy is only supposed to work that way if it favors him.
It is about time that the Buffalo Snooze has run with an article tellin people how absolutely insanely nuts Jack Davis is.
The best part of the article is when he goes after the farmer. “Told what Lincoln said, Davis replied: ‘He’s not a regular farmer. He’s one of these big guys . . . I’d call him a multinational farmer.’”
Lincoln is a Dairy Farmer from Ontario F-ing County!!!!!!!!!! From a town of 1,000 people and Jack Davis is attacking him because he disagrees with Davis????
Davis is such a kook. I’m an Amherst Democrat and if Davis wins, I’m voting for Lee. I’m guessing the Republicans know that which is why the keep going after Powers and leave Davis pretty much untouched. Pretty good strategy on their party, especially when stuff like this comes out…
PS. Davis also acknowledged that he had never even met the farmer.
I listened to the video twice.
Jack thinks ILLEGAL immigration from Mexico is bad. He thinks it is bad for the economy and may lead to ethnic disputes down the line. He has history on his side there as many or even most wars are fought between and among racial, ethnic, and religious groups. Palestine, Serbia, Iraq.
Ethnic conflicts were involved in the start of both world wars.
What’s all the excitement about? Why is he wrong?
Shorter Jack Davis: Die Meksikaner sind unser ungluck.
Anyone who thinks that Latino immigrants to the Southwest are going to start a civil war is an imbecile. The US isn’t Palestine, Serbia, or Iraq because the US isn’t a homogeneous nation; it’s a melting pot of as many nationalities as exist on earth.
wow Jim is just as crazy as Jack — no wonder he supports him.
Jim, Jack did mention ‘illegal immigrants’ on the tape, but then went took pains in the interview to say that ‘voting’ would be the method they use in the future.
And I’m glad I’m not the only one who cringes each time I hear ’spatial inner rest’ as much as I do each time I hear ‘my friends’.
By the way Jim… one of Jack’s direct quotes were: “They could then secede from the United States, and then we might have another civil war.”
Hmm… so why are you so greatly defending Davis as a Republican? You’re afraid for Powers to win.
Davis has to bribe parties, pay to create his own party, lie about things, flip flop on immigration, and then recently we’ve seen him send spy’s in to steal call scripts from Powers campaign and incorrectly call them a push poll.
All this after Davis once sent phone calls out asking who people would vote for if they found out things about Powers… and those things are a total lie.
Davis is that sadly desperate?
I went door to door today as a volunteer. I met over 75 registered democrats in the district.
1 – yes count them – 1 said they were going to vote for Davis. I had 68 votes for Powers, and 6 undecideds. 5 of those said they were going to vote for Powers when I was done speaking with them. 1 was still unsure between Kryzan and Powers because his wife knew Alice.
A handful (10-12) even mentioned getting a phone call from Davis today, and the lady couldn’t speak English and didn’t know what Davis was running for!!
That’s only a small poll – but from what I have seen Davis doesn’t stand a chance! He doesn’t even have people willing to put up yard signs for him. They are all in vacant lots on Transit (illegally) and public property.
“By the way Jim… one of Jack’s direct quotes were: “They could then secede from the United States, and then we might have another civil war.”
“Hmm… so why are you so greatly defending Davis as a Republican? You’re afraid for Powers to win.”
First, however politically incorrect, his statement about war and secession is quite plausible from the standpoint of history and political science.
Second, I’m not really defending Davis but I have a long and strong interest in the issues of war, secession, and immigration. I endorsed Davis against Reynolds for many reasons. I didn’t know Jack when he was a Republican.
I am disappointed by the whole campaign and have no involvement with any candidate.
Jim you’ve before said you were for Lee, now changing to Davis?
Are you disappointed by the Davis campaign? And their youtube videos under “fightforchange”?
You really think the Mexican’s are going to take over California? Seriously? You really really honestly deep down in your heart believe that?
You think all immigrants are the same like Davis does? Legal and Illegal should be burned at the stake? You think a white supremacy supporter should be our Congressman? Would you vote for Adolph too?
***”You really think the Mexican’s are going to take over California? Seriously? You really really honestly deep down in your heart believe that?”***
I guess that really depends on your definition of “take over”. Are they going to arm themselves and storm the capital ? No. Are they going to end up getting all the benefits enjoyed by actual citizens ? Most likely. We in WNY don’t have daily contact with illegals and the problems they bring, but if you don’t think that is reality then you need to get your head out of the sand. Call me a xenophobe. Call me a “racist”. I prefer realist.
Oh, and what’s with the “white supremacy supporter” bullshit. Where did you come up with that ? Where did he say anything about LEGAL immigrants ? And then you throw in “Adolf” to boot ? You are truly an idiot.
Jim, why is it that so many pro-Davis/anti-Powers appear immediately after a story to flog/defend? If you guys can take the money and sleep without pharmacological aid, then pick up the money off the nightstand and leave the motel with your head held high.
sure thing un-realist. who’s the idiot, the guy making fun of the crazy guy… or the crazy guy?
Davis truly believed that in his speech. And if he is “changing his mind” does that mean he’s a flip-flopper?
He’s either absolutely crazy… or he was crazy and now he’s a flip-flopper. Maybe he’s just loosing his memory and forgot he was crazy? So then he’s senial.
So realist – your pick: senial, crazy, or was crazy but flip-flops.
Uh, I guess he’s a flip-flopper. So what ? It was good enough for Kerry, right ?
I’m “loosing” my memory. Could you enlighten me as to what “senial” is ?
I referred to that poster as an idiot, because to call Davis a “white supremecist” and compare him to “Adolf” is ridiculous. Get out of the coffee house and out of your hipster bubble and you may find that many average Americans feel the same way as Davis does about illegal immigration .
distresing says :”Jim, why is it that so many pro-Davis/anti-Powers appear immediately after a story to flog/defend? If you guys can take the money and sleep without pharmacological aid, then pick up the money off the nightstand and leave the motel with your head held high.”
Huh ? Is Jim O supposedly “taking money” from Davis ?
Is defending someone other than Powers forbidden ? So it’s only okay to take shots at Davis ? I wish I would have known the rules – my apologies. Sorry to interrupt the Powers love-fest.
Realist, new to this site? ahahaha.
Again, you try to divert, digress, dispossess. Dude, refute my claim.
Wiener boy, you guys suck at this. You repeated my very well written description of you and your ilk. Defending Jack? Seriously, didn’t you mean ’stem the fuckin’ bleeding’? You clueless egotists keep pissing away Jack’s money defending him on sites that are largely populated by people who despise him. If that isn’t political vampirism…..ok, that’s all it is.
You guys wouldn’t even make waivers.
Nope, not new here.
Either you are confused, crazier than Davis, or have used some “pharmacological aids” youself.
I will refute your claim, and am certain that Jim O will as well. I have never met Jack Davis, or anyone remotely connected to him. Hell, I don’t even live in that district. I just find it ridiculous that someone called him a white supremecist and compared him to Hitler – and you were okay with that.
Again, the mis-direction and false accusations. This is how you guys work. Instead of returning back to the original topic, you try to divert the conversation in order to fool people into thinking I accused or was okay with what was said. Fuck you for trying that lunchtable bullshit of trying to define what I said. Show me where I said I was ‘okay’ with anything. You suck at this.
How do you refute? You have video of you not being connected? And unless you and Jim are conferring, how can you be certain?
And by trying to paint yourselves as critics of Davis when there’s no record of you being such, you reinforce my point: You guys suck at this.
First and foremost, I think Davis is crazy. When I first read this, I thought this concept was crazy. After all, the reason why there are so many ILLEGAL immigrants is because of the benefits the American tax payers provide to them and to the kids that they are lucky enough to pop out on American soil.
Then I viewed this as a 40 year issue and remembered that the California economy is the 6th largest in the world and far far ahead to that of Mexico. I also know, as a resident of San Diego, that there is not the assimilation that people know in Buffalo with immigrants. It is not “I am a Mexican American” here. It is “I am a Mexican living in the USA” here. Its not that they hate the US or hold a grudge from the war of 1812. What is there is a very strong Mexican National Pride.
Mexicans are not stupid people. They know the rules. Hell their government gives them specific instructions on how to illegally enter the US and what they need to do to become legal or to use social and medical services in the US.
Hate Davis…call him an out of touch dick. Whatever. He has no chance of winning. It is going to be Powers v. Lee.
However, this CAN happen and it would not shock me if it DID happen.
Well, Jack’s crazy side is finally getting some exposure, thank goodness. And I just checked and this article is the most e-mailed article from the Buffalo News today. So much for the Jack camp hoping no one would notice.
False accusations ? Like saying that I am a paid employee of Davis ? Why so paranoid ? You are either A.) trolling , or B.) the most irrational loser I’ve ever run across.
Yes , I DO have video of not being connected to Davis … and some of being connected to your mother.
Jack has a side that’s not crazy?!?!?
“Realist Says:
August 23rd, 2008 at 7:16 pm
False accusations ? Like saying that I am a paid employee of Davis ? Why so paranoid ? You are either A.) trolling , or B.) the most irrational loser I’ve ever run across.
Yes , I DO have video of not being connected to Davis … and some of being connected to your mother.”
Ok, let us see both videos. And, shit for brains, my mother (an Army Nurse during the Korean War) is dead.
This is good. Very entertaining. There’s nothing like blogging.
Hobbes said if the average person knew how “voluptuous” the life of the mind was, they’d take it up. Or something like that.
How do you say “wack job” in Spanish?
Hit the road Jack and don’t come back. Jack Davis is a full on nut. His racist rant is insane, and it is horrifying that he is running as a Democrat. Jack needs to retire from public life and take a chill pill. I think a long vacation in the southwest would suit him well. Maybe he can talk to some of the immigrants he is affraid of and calm down.
To paint them as some sort of criminal drain on the economy is simply sad.
I guess that depends on where you live, and the width of your blinders.
Are not Alan and his parents FOB (Fresh off the Boat) immigrants themselves? I’m sure they didn’t sneak over the border from Canada.
LEGAL immigration has taken place since 1620. ILLEGAL immigrants from Mexico have been coming over in large numbers since the 20’s.
There are several states (NC being one of them) that gives all these illegales driver’s licenses. Because the Democrats need their voting blocks (Illegals, the Dead, convicted felons) to vote, registration only requires a driver’s license. Pay no mind that 200 hispanics have given the SAME address in Charlotte for their license, now they can register to vote—no birth certificate of proof of citizenship required other than the driver’s license.
THANK YOU BILL CLINTON AND THE “MOTOR VOTER” BILL for that bullshit.
I’m not saying what Davis purports can happen, but if you think there will not be at least 1/3 of the 30 million illegals voting in this next election, you’re too far gone to discuss things with rationally.
And don’t talk about the possibility of the takeover of California until you’ve seen the Prison Population there, and the tens of thousands of gang members that swear their allegiance to the leaders of the Mexican Mafia prison gang, who live in CA prisons.
None of this post told me why anyone should vote for Powers.
no ones defending illegal immigrants you retard. but most “rational” people don’t think we’re going to start a freaking war with them to save California.
there’s nothing wrong with defending Davis… but if you ask the average person on the street they don’t think we’ll be rolling tanks in L.A. to stop the “wetback problem” like Davis thinks.
You Republicans just showed your true colors that you want Davis to win so you can play the same video over and over and let Lee cake walk into office. You’re just too afraid to face Powers.
hey jim-o nice to see you attack spelling and screw it up in lots of other places. way to avoid the topic.
Hank – powers has labor and farm support. he’s shown that they feel his policies and efforts work best for their situations.
i bet your grandparents or great grand parents would be rolling in their graves if you said these sames comments when they got off the boat. it’s not about letting them all walk in and getting licenses and taking over. it’s about creating a system that lets people come, and if they are a problem they’re sent right back out. the current system isn’t working obviously.
Hank, do you believe a big double wall will keep mexican people from showing up? should we wall off canada too then? should we build a big huge bubble dome with gun turrets all around with a “sorry we’re full” sign on it? because that’s what Davis is saying will solve the problem. It’s not the problem people are disagreing on – it’s how f*cking crazy Davis’s solutions are.
If Davis won – farmers would have any cheap labor, and couldn’t trade their crops overseas… so they’ve have to hire people at $ 8/ $ 9 an hour and they’d lose a huge market for their product. You’re the a-hole that would bitch when corn went to $ 10 an ear, or a pepper was $ 5.
Hank you always go to the extreme… so tell us, why are you so racist?
Gato Davis está realmente loco
Senior ?
Jack Davis is right. You can try to twist his words, and go to extremes, but that doesn’t change the facts. It’s easy to be pro-illegals from Clarence. Or Spot coffe whilst sipping your double decaf mocha latte and pretending to do the Times crossword. Or on your way to the ultra-hip Bidwell farmers market. Here in the real world we recognize the problem. This isn’t about Mexicans – it’s about ILLEGALS and a pourous border that is a threat to national security. Now I know at this point all you enlightened types are screaming at your computer (and scaring all your Allentown neighbors who are tending their beautiful gardens) “Well what about CANADA then ? You don’t care about that because they aren’t brown-skinned !” To that I say bullshit. I’m less concerned about them – because they aren’t streaming over the border at several hundred a day. They aren’t committing crimes and sneaking back ‘home’. Their government doesn’t give them advice on how to enter the US illegally. They don’t come here and speak their native language and expect me to do the same. There is a process to follow to become LEGAL immigrants – like our relatives of the past. I have no problem with that.
The only arrested terrorist suspect came over the border from…wait for it…north of us.
And Jack backed away from his original scarifying to clarify that he expected it would be voters who changed things.
I’d like Jack to explain to me why people would move to America from Mexico to make America more like Mexico. “I’m moving to Florida from Buffalo in hopes that Florida’s weather becomes more like Buffalo’s”. “I’m moving from Mexico to America in hopes that America’s economy and government becomes more like Mexico’s”. Even for the most virulent anti-immigrant advocate, there’s little logic there.