15 Comments

1. Buffalo Blood Donor says:

   August 28, 2008 at 8:46 am

   Didn’t the Hutu/Tutsi conflict start out like this?

   Better hide the machetes.

   BBD
2. Tom says:

   August 28, 2008 at 10:16 am

   Just as they are inflating/hyping it, you are reducing the effect of it. Its typical media where no side gets the real truth. They may be pointing out isolated instances (and obviously hyping them) but FBI crime statistics prove that areas with increased immigration from certain areas have increased crime.

   Why cant we just have a reasonable discussion. I guess thats not the American way. Maybe we need to import (illegally if necessary) some reason.
3. indabuff says:

   August 28, 2008 at 10:52 am

   Tom…you are on the money with your comment…it not only applies to this issue but others as well.
4. mike hudson says:

   August 28, 2008 at 11:30 am

   sounds like a jack davis conspiracy!
5. peter scott says:

   August 28, 2008 at 11:41 am

   “FBI crime statistics prove that areas with increased immigration from certain areas have increased crime”

   A=B….B=C….A=C?

   maybe they should start paying $50/hr to pick lettuce…
6. bean town says:

   August 28, 2008 at 12:05 pm

   Just an FYI – Buffalo Bean posted a blog today about not letting critics speak out… and then only posted a comment from Buffalo Pundit (no other comments have been allowed because Bean is silencing his critics – ironic)

   Way to get in there and fight for the right BP!

   I wonder if he posted your comment because by denying it you could notify the audience here.
7. bean town says:

   August 28, 2008 at 12:08 pm

   egg on my face – bean posted and has not completely finished moderating some comments – lets see if he’ll let it go through
8. The Humanist says:

   August 28, 2008 at 12:24 pm

   Causality – a necessary relationship between one event (called cause) and another event (called effect) which is the direct consequence (result) of the first

   Even though the Minutemen/Lou Dobbs/Grumpy Grampa Davis crowd loves to link illegal immigration (and, subtly, immigration in general) to increased crime, the stats don’t lie and they don’t make a leap in logical progression. Just because immigrants may move in greater numbers to denser populated urban areas with higher crime rates does not automatically mean that they are to blame for said crime rates.
9. mike hudson says:

   August 28, 2008 at 3:51 pm

   immigrant groups throughout our nation’s history have been linked to increased crime by those who don’t like them. the jews, irish, italians etc. all had that rap hung on them in days gone by.

   did anybody see “scarface”?
10. Mr. Pink says:

    August 28, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    Hmmm, do illegal immigrants create criminal acts. Well, isn’t the fact that they are here illegally concern anyone?

    Since when did we get to decide what laws are the books actually matter and which ones don’t. If you didn’t go through the proper channels to be here, you should be sent packing. Period.

    Immigration is a key component to this country’s future growth…it should just be done the right way.
11. lefty says:

    August 28, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Nice production quality….

    While I think everyone will agree there is a degree in sensationalism in the shows this video mentioned, it does not mean the counter to these shows is that their content is 100% wrong. Which this video DOES try to do.

    Is the problem of illegal immigration as big as these shows make it out to be? No. Does this video try and take the issue to the complete opposite end of the spectrum and try to enforce there really is not a problem at all? Yes.

    In fact it is rather comical that this video is critiquing television for by using the same broad stroke technique to paint a simple and incomplete picture for the average American.

    Simply put paint in big strokes so the average person can absorb this obviously complex issue is stupid on both sides of the issue.
12. Larry Castellani says:

    August 28, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    Isn’t the law a consideration here? We are, the last time I checked, a nation under law not one governed, in principle, by economic expediency. In addition to the fact that an 1800 mile virtually open border contradicts Admininistration policy, if not common sense, in regard to the “terrorism problem,” why aren’t we as concerned as Dobbs, O’Riley and Beck, hyperbole notwithstanding? Obviously in this country there are values that trump both obedience to the law and the primacy of the principle of law.
13. Joe Niagara says:

    August 28, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    Welcome Larry, I am happy to see you found a real blog that won’t delete your radical postings.
14. Tuco says:

    August 28, 2008 at 6:58 pm

    Media Matters is way out there on the left-wing fringe with the moveon.orgs and Katrina Vanden Heuvels of the world, so the credibility of this piece is ZERO. It always amuses me to hear the word “undocumented” used in place of “illegal” when it comes to illegal aliens. Why stop there? For instance, I could say that lots of people got busted on July 4th for blowing off “undocumented” fireworks. Selling “undocumented” firearms will get you sent to prison.

    Sorry, Tom, unfortunately reasonable discussions are dead. It’s soundbite put out by the far left vs soundbite put out by the far right, followed by inane overanalysis by both sides, who continue the war of words.
15. hudson like the drinky drinky says:

    August 28, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Hudson… what about Illuzzi’s crime wave, was he an illegal alien?