19 Comments

1. Jim H says:

   October 21, 2008 at 3:23 pm

   I bet she’s anti-abortion, too.

   Look, she does some some stupid things — anyone who thinks they have all the answers, especially about faith, is immediately discredited. But why do people of faith scare non-beleivers?

   BTW, Jaws is scarier.
2. The Humanist says:

   October 21, 2008 at 3:24 pm

   @ Jim H – because too often people of faith are represented in our culture by knuckledraggers like this buffoon.
3. rastamick61 says:

   October 21, 2008 at 3:38 pm

   The Lawd however is not going to pick up the tab when Tracey suffers a massive MI from all of those faith burgers she’s been slamming. The taxpayers sorry to say will be funding her medical bills long after that measly 5K plan McPalin wants to give to insurance companies is gone. O’s atheist mom, his muslim grandma don’t bother me one tenth as much as this self appointed moral policewoman and walking stroke bother me. Wanna bet she has a Limbaugh sticker somehwere ?
4. Buffalopundit says:

   October 21, 2008 at 3:39 pm

   @Jim H – my beliefs, or lack thereof, are irrelevant to the discussion. This isn’t about faith. It’s about the intersection of faith into politics and government. Something the founding fathers were wary enough of to keep separate.

   People of faith don’t scare me. People like this woman scare me.
5. Snarky Snarkmore McSnarkamaphone says:

   October 21, 2008 at 3:42 pm

   But why do people of faith scare non-beleivers?

   You did watch the video, right?
6. Jim H says:

   October 21, 2008 at 4:19 pm

   Snarky, I go to church Sunday (a conservative one – go figure), and this woman scares me. She is hardly representative of the average fanny in the pew Sunday mornings.

   BP, is she injecting faith into politics, which the founders did, indeed keep separate, or is she using her faith, however bizarre, to guide her political judgement, something I believe the founders did do, in some measure? How and when do you separate morality, religion, and the law? That, by the way, is not rhetorical – I don’t think there’s an obvious answer.

   I’m no lawyer, so go easy. I promise not to hammer on you if you go off on microbiology.
7. Chris M says:

   October 21, 2008 at 4:23 pm

   You gotta base your vote on something. I’d rather see someone base theirs on a moral/religious foundation, than on which candidate would give them the biggest unearned handout.

   So she’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer? Not everyone can be a super-sophisticated, chic Buffalonian. I swear, sometimes I think you folks in the thriving, bustling “city of magic” look down on us “clingers”…
8. Buffalopundit says:

   October 21, 2008 at 4:40 pm

   BP, is she injecting faith into politics, which the founders did, indeed keep separate, or is she using her faith, however bizarre, to guide her political judgement, something I believe the founders did do, in some measure? How and when do you separate morality, religion, and the law? That, by the way, is not rhetorical – I don’t think there’s an obvious answer.

   The only issue of any relevance to her in this election isn’t the economy or the war or national debt or the bailout or even values or character.

   She said the only issue for her in this election is, “The one who has the most faith in the Lord.” That is “make or break” for her, and she thinks it should be for everyone.

   Furthermore, she indicates she has a “problem” with Obama’s surname, due to his “background” – his mother was atheist and is father was a Muslim. “That should get to everyone.” That sort of ignorant xenophobia really gets to me, to use her turn of phrase.

   By the way – is there any “Christianity” in the Bible? Technically?
9. The Humanist says:

   October 21, 2008 at 4:41 pm

   @Chris M – so, what are you saying? “Be kind to the whackjob bigot…at least she’s basing her loopiness in religion”???

   You better damn well believe I consider myself elitist and better than the buffoonery on display in that video.
10. Alex H. says:

    October 21, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    I know people of faith who are not quite so stupid, and though I am an atheist (or rather, a humanist), I respect their opinions. The problem is when they feel that their government should be based on faith in the authority of a church, rather than in reason.

    So, if someone has arrived at the position that the state should prevent abortion (please note that this is not the only “anti-abortion” position: I am against abortion, as is Obama, but this does not extend to state violence against those who abort), they should be required to demonstrate that there is a reasoned explanation for this position. Nowhere in the bible does it say “The US government should penalize women who have had abortions with a term in prison not to exceed ten years.” I challenge anyone of faith to show me where such a claim appears. And if not, it is a matter of interpretation, as much as one of faith.

    Frankly, we are all engaged in interpreting matters in this difficult situation. What does it mean to be human? When do we become human? Are there varying degrees of protection? How do we weigh the very real individual and social effects that an abortion has?

    These are all reasonable questions that–for democracy to work–we need to engage in. And, naturally, what is true of abortion is true of a range of difficult policy issues. What is frightening about this video is the certainty the woman has that she is right. God–if she exists–gave us brains for a reason. Someone without doubt is someone who is not exercising that organ, and to my mind, that’s downright sacrilegious.
11. The Wizard Jr says:

    October 21, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Did you get this from The Daily Show? That woman totally looks like someone that should be on the Daily Show.

    Faith is faith, this woman is a moron who uses her religion to hide her ignorance to the world. That should offend everyone and trust me, as someone who attends Mass every Sunday, she is not representative of Church going folk…
12. WNYPMH says:

    October 21, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Amen to that Jr.
13. Prodigal-Son says:

    October 21, 2008 at 6:57 pm

    Well said Wizard Jr.

    She may think she is basing her vote on faith, but she is actually basing it on bigotry, fear, and xenophobia.

    It is unfortunate that the reporter for NOW never challenged her on how her faith taught her that the name “Obama” is scary. The reporter let her dig her own hole, which I understand, but the end result is that knuckledraggers like this, to quote Humanist, are allowed to “represent” people of faith in general.

    Just goes to show there are faithful that are morons, as well as athietsts that are morons. I don’t think it is elitist to say stupidity crosses all lines.
14. mike says:

    October 21, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    I saw this sunday on pbs, but this is old news. scary? i guess you never get to any pta meetings. She kind of reminds me of mary kunz goldman.
15. wizards cousin mizard says:

    October 21, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Wow… well, she has the right to base her vote on whatever she wants, but it’s ironic that she claims “faith in the lord” and “religious views” when Palin’s daughter had pre marrital sex.
16. wizards cousin mizard says:

    October 21, 2008 at 11:35 pm

    i think we could replace this with a voice over of a mcdonald’s commercial “give me my Big Mac”
17. Peter Farrell says:

    October 21, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    It’s people like her that former governor Jesse Ventura was referring to when he stated that “religion is a crutch for weak minded people”.

    I swear, if the Bible said that 2 and 2 equaled 12 someone like that would believe it.
18. Jeff says:

    October 22, 2008 at 1:11 am

    No one I know would be SCARED of that woman. They would definitely be DEPRESSED by her empty-headed assertions.

    No doubt that woman has a Limbaugh sticker somewhere. I just wish it was stuck over her mouth.
19. Jim H says:

    October 22, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Funny, but I’ve almost never heard Limbaugh talk about religion. I guess republicans don’t the market cornered on bigotry.