Written on Thursday, November 6th, 2008 at 10:17am by Alan Bedenko | 93 Comments
Deep Thought Thursday
If Obama is like Hitler, as I’ve heard repeatedly on WBEN and seen, regrettably, on my own site, then can someone point me to his “kill all the Jews” platform? I must have missed that somewhere.
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Obama needn’t say “Kill all the Jews.” All he needs do is stand idly by while his friend Khalid Rashidi and Hamas do it for him, emboldened as they have been by Tuesday’s vote. (Anyone notice that Hamas fired 35 celebratory missiles into Israel first thing Wednesady morning?)
He can even decry the acts, as I’m sure he has the slaughter in Darfur, and Rwanda before that; but as long as he is perceived as unwilling to respond meaningfully, history is likely to unfold much as it did between 1977 and 1980, and between 1993 and 2000.
Fox news just called the Palin’s Wasila Hillbillies, what an insult to real hillbillies.
Can you give me a reference on that Ward? Having trouble finding that…
Khalid Rashidi said “Kill all the Jews”? When? Back that accusation up why don’t you?
@Russell – I’m sure you’re a legend in your own mind.
Hasn’t Alan said that he’ll delete libelous posts? Let’s hear about when Rashid Khalidi said “Kill all the Jews”.
Never mind. FOund the reference. SOmething about retaliation for Israeli missile attack on Tuesday. Celebratory?
“How sad it must be for you, Humanist, to fail yourself everytime you post.”
Something Russy is very familiar with.
@Ward. So long as history does not unfold as it did between 1981 and 1989 when most of WNY’s heavy industrial base was exported to asia by RReagan admin. When the repu administration turned a deaf ear to complaints by Bethlehem and Republic that Japaneese steel was being dumped in the USA. And Buffalo ended up losing 45,000 jobs.
Yep, Pauldub, they’re always just retaliation for what big, powerful, mean and nasty Israel has done.
Byron, not at all. I don’t post a set of standards everyone should follow and then proceed to not meet those standards in my next 7 posts. That shouldn’t make me a legend in anyone’s mind. But it sure should make Humanist a disappointment in his own.
Byron — easy Youtube search on Rashidi, as well as on Khalid al-Mansour, the fine chap who wrote a letter of recommendation for Barry to Harvard. You can watch the video clips of the words coming from their own lips. You may have to put up with voiceovers from the likes of Hannity in between the video clips, but hey–man up.
Oh WNYPMH, how clever and smart you are to paraphrase Byron’s post an hour later. I really feel zinged now. Just see my response above.
frieda – you’ll find that modern pharmacology has much to offer to help you overcome your affliction of non-sequiturs. Give it a try. Cheers.
If it’s such an easy YT search, let’s see a link to anything showing Rashid Khalidi said “Kill all the Jews”.
That notorious Jew-hater Marty Peretz disagrees, Ward, with your assessment of Khalidi, and I didn’t find any video on YouTube of Khalidi calling on anyone to “kill all the Jews.”
When the repu administration turned a deaf ear to complaints by Bethlehem and Republic that Japaneese steel was being dumped in the USA. And Buffalo ended up losing 45,000 jobs.
The workers there should have turned a deaf ear to their Union.
The United Steel Workers kept pushing up wages, which the Steel companies fixed by raising prices, until foreign steel was so much cheaper Bethlehem and Republic couldn’t compete.
This hit me and my family right where it lived. My father retired from Republic. LTV bought out Republic and promptly went under. My fathers 20 year pension check is 45.00/month, paid from the LTV bankruptcy settlement.
SO why did he pay union dues for 20 years? Where’s the United Steel Workers when my 80 year old mother needs to pay her bills?
Don’t blame Reagan OR republicans for the collapse of the steel business, anymore than you can blame Bush 41 and Clinton for the thousands of auto jobs that have left WNY.
you MIGHT try blaming the high NYS corporate Tax rate, and the unions who think some airhead sticking 4 bolts into an engine or rear end deserves 30.00/hr.
Frieda, Republic closed here in the late 1970s and Bethelehem hit bottom in 1982. It’s troubles did not begin in 1981. They started in the 1970s. The worst year was 1982. There’s no way possible the policies of Reagan could have affected any of that, not even 1982. Nearly all of the jobs you referenced were lost before Reagan took office. I thought we already covered this. You should brush up on your facts. It’s pretty clear history that is not debatable. I think you’ve also been shown that Reagan’s policies were at the request of the auto industry and the UAW. The steel wasn’t dumped here. The US car industry needed cheaper inputs to keep up with competition. The sought out cheaper steel from Japan.
@ Russell – THe point I was attemting to make was -
Where did the “celebratory” bullshit come from?
Call it like it is. They lob missiles on a daily basis, no matter who wins an election.
While we’re on that subject, Not to Compare President-Elect Obama to der Fuehrer, he DOES support this “No secret ballot” to vote in a union, doesn’t he… Sounds something like this;
The German Labour Front (German: Deutsche Arbeitsfront, DAF) was the amalgamated National Socialist (Nazi) trade union organisation which replaced the free and diverse Weimar Republic trade unions that Adolf Hitler outlawed on 2 May 1933, after his rise to power.
It’s basically the same thing. Unions become mandatory,not the worker’s choice.
Next thing you know, due to their adherence to Christian moral values, the Boy Scouts of America will be disbanded, just as they were in 1930’s Deutschland, and young american boys will join the Obama Youth.
Still waiting for that YT link, Ward.
Is this the same YT that has Howard Dean calling Colin Powell a house slave? I always loved that piece o’ crap from the early days of BP.
@Hank, Obama isn’t Hitler, and Obama isn’t setting up a government-run labor union to take over the independent trade unions. By comparing Obama to Hitler, you lose.
Really? On what basis do you suggest that? Don’t tell me about your feelings – point me to one salient, real fact that backs that up.
Also, I hear that Obama and Hitler both liked puppies.
Ja vol, mein Schwarze Fuhrer!
So Ward libeled a distinguished university professor; when asked to back up his accusation, he spouted some gibberish about a non-existent YT where “You can watch the video clips of the words coming from [his] own lips”, advised me to “man up”, and then scooted off.
Are you always this much of an a$$hole, Ward, or is today a special day?
Actually, here are examples of why Obama appealed to voters. (If it came from Howard Stern, it must be true.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU
So you’re admitting you made up the Khalidi accusation? Or are you too much of a punk to do even that? C’mon – “man up”.
@russel – Bethlehem had record profits of 7.3 billion in 1981 . The Lackawanna Plant was shut down at the end of 1982.
@Ward – how cute….too bad Howard didn’t interview these lovely, well-informed folks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vagD-4AH4Vc
Today is a very special day, Byron. It is the day that you leaped to the defense of two very special people.
Mansour: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpnaZj6Bx1c&feature=related
Your “distinguished university professor”, Khalidi, was an employee of the PLO in 1982, and was described as its press official. Or did I get that wrong?
Sorry — gotta “scoot off”, as you put it.
The workers there should have turned a deaf ear to their Union
The unions tried to do something about it. In 1984
Steel imports into the United States climb to a record 26 million tons, and Bethlehem and the United Steelworkers Union filed a 201 Petition under U.S. trade laws.
C’mon – “man up”.
oh, you be snappin on him byron!
I didn’t say shit about “Mansour”, whoever he is – you accused Rashid Khalidi of saying “Kill all the Jews” and now you can’t back it up. What, you figured they both have Middle Eastern sounding names, so close enough?
Typical right-wing a$$hole – can’t admit he’s wrong even when the truth is staring him in his ugly pie-hole. Fuck you.
@Ward – the bullshit in your posts is stacked so high, we need wings to stay above it.
Posting Fox News smear clips here as “proof” to support your bullshit wiil not cut it. Come here with a legitimate source or stop regurgitating tired old GOP smears.
I love how you slander a respected university professor (one that both Obama and McCain spoke highly of at one time), but offer not a single piece of proof for your bullshit – instead, you challenge others to prove you wrong. FAIL
Spokesman for the PLO? Employed by the PLO? On what planet? Yes, you did get that wrong.
I’m reminded of Obama’s great line from the campaign on certain Repubs: “It’s like they’re proud of being ignorant.”
Yep, that’s Ward.
Hank, steel is not dead here, its just needed to declare bankrupcy and get rid of all the legacy costs.(like your old man’s heathcare bill) Now they are back but leaner and meaner, this happened all over the world not just in NYS.
American politics has become a parody of itself.
Oh yea hank, how does it feel to live in a blue state?
Good bye to the Rovian repressive Republican regime. Pack up the moving vans you pricks. Maybe some measure of sanity will return to the GOP and the conservative movement.
I heard the evening host on WBEN start his show last night by saying that if Obama is the “Hitler in the making” that all the nuts are trying to make him out to be, then he’s already doing a horrible job—because he not only picked a Jew to be his Chief of Staff, but he picked a Jew with the middle name “Israel”!
Pretty funny.
They’re not all crazy over there.
Frieda, that doesn’t even make sense. They had record profits in 1981 and then were shut down by the end of 1982. Come on. Do you have a source for that? Everything I’ve read, seen, and heard from people that worked there, the big layoffs were in the ’70s. And again, there’s no way that Reagan’s policies could have had that immediate an effect. It’s not possible. Please show me a source. Last time we had this discussion I showed you three and you still have not shown one.
And what about Republic? You included them earilier in your statements but not you’re not talking about them. They were closed before Reagan came to office, but you claimed they closed because of Reagan’s policies. Are you admitting you lied about that one?
Frieda, could you please tell me what policies of Reagan actually caused the 1982 closing of Bethlehem. I cannot find anything attributed to him concerning steel in 1981. In 1982, his administration negotiated a limit on imports from the European Community. Limiting imports would have helped, not hurt, Bethlehem steel. In 1984, he refused to act to curb further imports. He based this decision on a 1974 law enacted by Congress. That 1974 law is the actual policy that economists and industry experts point to as the law that broke the steel industry in the US. Reagan wasn’t president in 1974. Simple facts escape you so I know I had to point it out. Furthermore, 1982 was before 1984. There’s no way his policies of 1984 could have impacted 1982’s bottom line.
You can check the New York Times, Time Magazine and Oxford Analytica for all the facts on this.
I, for one, welcome our new National Socialist overlords.
Tomorrow Belongs To Meeeeeeee!!!
@Russel Hard to believe.. Yes.. but these and other facts can be yours at the Lackawanna LOcal History and Steel Plant Museum @ 560 Ridge Rd in Lackawanna. AFA RR after it had been shown that the Japaneese were dumping steel the administration refused to issue sanctions.
Bring back (slick) tom Tiberi we miss him