Obama / Biden 2008

I don’t get why they released this in the middle of the night.

If they had texted the choice to people yesterday in the mid-afternoon, there would have been insane buzz online, in offices, at schools, everywhere. By releasing it at 3:22 am, it’s more or less filled with meh.

But setting aside procedural quibbles, I like Biden as a pick.

18 Comments

  1. Facts Plz says:

    Fox News broke the story and the Obama camp had to release it ahead of schedule.

  2. Kevin Hardwick says:

    I agree with you on the timing of the text, Alan. They tried to be a bit too cute, the pick got leaked, and they paid the price.

    I disagree with you on the pick, though. I’ve been down on Biden since he was exposed as a plagiarist in ‘88. Not only did he lift another politician’s speech, but it was revealed that he was found guilty of plagiarism in school. These charges didn’t resurface in his recent presidential bid because nobody took him seriously. Now that he’s on the ticket, watch out! I can see the Republicans trying to link his plagiarism to the speeches Obama lifted earlier this year from Deval Patrick and I believe someone else.

    I thought Bill Richardson or Evan Bayh would have been better picks. Although I will concede that the Democrats have no locked up Delaware’s 3 electoral votes.

  3. mike says:

    hardwick is right, biden was also caught chewing gum in 3rd grade and had to wear it on his nose the whole day.

  4. Kevin Hardwick says:

    That may be the case, Mike, but the plagiarism (see “academic dishonesty”) occured while he was a law student at Syracuse. The folks in the Dukakis campaign must have thought it was significant, as they’re the ones who leaked it to the media. I’m not sure whether they knew about the gum chewing incident at the time.

  5. Ward says:

    I can’t wait for the train wreck.

    My favorite quote from Joe Biden: “I think I have a much higher IQ than you do.”

    My favorite quote about Joe Biden (from Dana Milbank, WaPo, describing his performance during the Alito confirmation hearings): “Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr., in his first 12 minutes of questioning the nominee, managed to get off only one question. Instead, during his 30-minute round of questioning, Biden spoke about his own Irish American roots, his “Grandfather Finnegan,” his son’s application to Princeton (he attended the University of Pennsylvania instead, Biden said), a speech the senator gave on the Princeton campus, the fact that Biden is “not a Princeton fan,” and his views on the eyeglasses of Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.).”

    As Flounder said in “Animal House”– “Oohh boy, this is great!” Indeed.

  6. Mike In WNY says:

    Biden has helped perpetuate, and advocates, our failed foreign policy based on increasing foreign entanglements.

  7. The Humanist says:

    If Joe Biden’s plagarism is the worst the Republicans can dredge up to attack him, so be it.

    I can’t wait for McCain to select Mitt Rommney and add his three houses to Cindy’s 12 properties in the Great GOP Land Snatch.

  8. Jon Splett says:

    Before Obama picked his VP, I wasn’t voting for him but I wanted to see him win over McCain.

    Now that he’s selected Biden, author of a piece of bullshit legislation that’s directly impacted me, I hope McCain slaughters him.

    http://www.drugpolicy.org/communities/raveact/

  9. mike says:

    jon, I have worked and paid taxes for 30 years and I suppose to feel sorry for a bunch of pacifier wearing kids?

  10. Jon Splett says:

    When their biggest crime is hugging each other while sucking on those pacifiers?

    Yea. You are.

    When someone tries to suppress free speech or threatens to take away someones guns, people go apeshit. Apparently the right to assembly, not so popular to defend.

    30 years ago you hippies had your fun now, let us have ours.

  11. mike says:

    wrong decade jon, we had the clash(hippie haters), so when they come knocking at your door, how you gonna come? with your hands in the air or on the triggers of your gun?

  12. buffalomom says:

    I was sure it would come at Prime Time Friday night. You know, so the News would break in during some totally popular TV show like, er, I don’t know. Whatever people who watch TV watch on a Friday night. Like today’s Love Boat or Three’s Company.

    Biden is worth the pick for his Rudy G. comment during an early debate. I’m still laughing about that one. (Maybe if I watched TV, I’d be laughing about something else, but I’m not.)

    I think this is it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPOAKXBi9Pw My speakers are broken. If not, I’ll find it.

  13. Prodigal Son says:

    Biden was the best pick Obama could have made. Biden is one of the few national Democrats who is “serious.” I’ll put Bill Richradson in the caragory as well, but not Clinton, Edwards, or, more importantly, Obama.

    Biden has thought about issues, researched and studied, and then come to logical, defensible, positions. I may not agree with 80% of them, but I respect then, for being consistent and well thought out.

    Obama is the antithesis of seriousness. He is either for ephemeral “change” and “we are the one’s we’ve been waiting for,” whatever that means, or he is for poorly thought out, often pandering, policy positions (widnfall taxes on oil companies, dropping secret ballots at union organizational votes).

    Obama needs Biden – politically, excellent choice.

    I still hope they lose, but Biden makes it palatable if the inevitable comes.

  14. Janet Reno says:

    Michelle Obama should be ashamed.

    “GLORK” Michelle Obama should be ashamed of her separatist-racist connection to Farrakhan and Chicago’s Trinity United Church trumpeting Barack Obama AKA Barack Hussein Obama as the second coming of the messiah. Beneath that Darth-Vader-Mace-Windu-Jedi-Me ssiah Helmet Hairdo of Michelle Obama lurks a Wildabeast. If Michelle Obama new what her husband — the Hope-A-Dope, Fonster Monster — Barack Obama AKA Barack Hussein Obama did in Harlem, she would wash her wide-open, Hus-suey loving MUSILM mouth out, with twenty-four (24) mule-team double-cross X-boX-BorraX. The Lexis-Nexis-Albatross-Abacus-Complex of Barack and Michelle’s relationship with MUSLIM “PATWANG-FWEEE” Rev. Wright, Louis Farrakhan, and black demagoguery of Obama’s Stump Lines Echo Malcolm X; is about as much of a Hoax as Oxfam volunteers believe in HIV– AIDS Witch Doctors in Africa they feed.
    “God damn America” – Jeremiah Wright and Barack Obama.
    “God bless America” – Pope Benedict XVI and Hillary Clinton –
    Michelle Obama AKA Wildabeast — failed the Illinois Bar Exam. If Barack Obama had married Shaniqua instead of the leftist-separatist-racist-beast-’ist Michelle, his jackanapes’ excitedly-fixed-elitism, Nemet-Oure-Saxas Our Father Our King — black rage, and “GLORK” black demagoguery of Obama’s Stump Lines Echo Malcolm X; would be taken a lot more expeditiously. Its expected that Obam will manage his explosive MUSLIM JIHADI — FATIMA EXTREMISM obsession bitter. He is a MUSLIM “Glork” It’s time to introduce this false, fake “GLORK” Xerox – X box Obama and invite the self-indicting thief plagiarizing pipsqueke Xerox – X box to meet the Buffalo “GAZOWNT-GAZIKKA” Police Department Buffalo Creek. He’s MAD!!!

    http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/

  15. Starbuck says:

    As soon as I saw you said the text message was near 3am, I thought of an explanation that fits perfectly:

    It looks to me like a deliberate dig at Hillary and her “3am” ads during the primaries. I’m not necessarily saying Obama or Michelle ordered the specific hour of the text message. But maybe a staff member with lingering hostility toward Hillary chose the time.

    Has anyone yet offered a better interpretation? I should mail this to Rush and Drudge and see what they think. It’s a trivial thing for sure, but no more so than the “number of houses” so-called gaffe.

  16. Starbuck says:

    The text messages started at 3:02 am, says this:

    http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-cvn-anatomy-of-a-text-message,0,2256289.story

    Obama VP text message plan goes smoothly until media scoop candidate on his own announcement

    By JOHN DUNBAR | Associated Press Writer … The text message announcing Biden as Obama’s pick began filtering across the U.S. at 3:02 a.m. EDT Saturday, when most people were asleep. ..”

  17. hank says:

    Best Pick Ever.
    A Liberal running with a Liberal, in a country that is center-right did not work in 1980,1984,1988,2000 and 2004 and will not work this year either.
    Joe saw himself joining the ranks of John Edwards, Joe Lieberman, Lloyd Bentsen,Ms Ferraro and Fritz Mondale, and thought it would be a nice group to add his name to. And it will be.
    The Hillary Ad—BIDEN SAYS OBAMA UNELECTABLE–from the Primary season makes it a real joke.
    Bush the Elder called Reagan’s plan “Voodoo Economics” and ran as HIS VP some might say.
    to Paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen–”Senator, I voted for Ronald Reagan, we knew Ronald Reagan. You’re no Ronald Reagan”. So it’s not too likely that lightning bolt will hit.