Quick Post-Election Post

This is being written quickly on 6 hours’ sleep, so I’ll try to flesh it out at a later time.

1. I thought Hardwick would win.  I didn’t think he’d obliterate Iannello. Congratulations to him.  As I said last night to Chris, I hope he does look at the substantive, incremental regionalism that’s been shunted by the wayside in the last few years.

2. Dino Fudoli beat Diane Terranova, whom he tirelessly worked to keep off the ballot.  Well, it’s somewhat easier to win elections when you figuratively gag and tie your opponent up.  Kathy Konst, whose name stayed on the ballot on the Independence Party line, pulled 20% of the vote, so a separate eff you goes out to her and Collins for colluding to get Fudoli elected.  Fudoli was supposed to be some kind of reformist businessman, but he acted thuggishly during this race, and as far as I’m concerned, his win is tainted.

3. Lynne Dixon blew the doors off Bob Reynolds?  I didn’t see that coming.

4. I didn’t pay much attention to NJ and VA, where Republican gubernatorial candidates won.  They won.  Yay them. Apparently, Republican turnout was as strong as November 2008, but Democratic turnout collapsed.

5. NY-23.  I privately told Chris yesterday that I thought Owens would eke out a win by 2 points.  He won 49.3% vs. 45.2%.  I think Robert Harding’s analysis here is pretty spot-on, and I’ll return to what I said last night: the American people are generally in the middle.  Party activists can tend to be on the political extremes.  Our system of candidate selection, including through primaries, favors the true believer extremists.  Unfortunately, that doesn’t always translate well when you open it up to the general population.  Make no mistake – this loss is a huge blow to the Palinist wing of the Republican Party, which pulled out every single available stop to make sure Hoffman won. When they start the purge of Olympia Snowe, they’d better remember this day.

6.  Chris Collins won some, lost some today.  He gains friendly seats in the legislature.  Veto overrides will be harder now.  He lost the comptroller’s race, and will now have to stand up to more of that pesky scrutiny he so dislikes.

7. Tim Howard.  The Democrats need to recruit someone to run against this guy immediately and start building a credible, strong, well-funded campaign a whole lot earlier than March of 2013.

8. That’s enough, Alice Kryzan.

Your thoughts & observations in comments, please.

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85 Comments

  1. scott says:

    chigaco was no front runner, shim. brazil was. he’s worked on closing obama, stonger leg on hate crime, worked towards stopping the 10% unemployment, bank crisis, car manu crisis, iraq war, recession, inflation and currently trying to help americans from getting f’cked by the health ins companies. all in 10 months. you are clearly a republican, thats fine, but can you name us some GOOD things that the previous rebub pres did in his 8 years???? Rebpub, Dem, Ind, whatever….i like to see my pres active and atleast attempting to do something. I recall going MONTHS without ever hearing from the previous pres.

  2. scott says:

    closing gitmo. point being, cleaning up the mess that was left for him.

  3. shim says:

    “Spitting blood and spouting bullshit?” Is that what it’s called when someone disagrees with you? Byron, you’re the one that talked about EVERYONE hating republicans. Again sounds pretty angry to me. But it’s really not anger..that’s a typical liberal come back to anyone that disagrees with you or your ideas. I’ll continue to give my opinions and comments…and save the “spitting blood (and spouting bullshit)” to the likes of you and Humanist.

  4. shim says:

    @ Scott…you are correct Chigaco wasn’t the front runner…Chicago was…and you went months without hearing from the previous president because the liberal lap dog media wasn’t on hand 24/7 to record and report on his every move…

  5. shim says:

    @scott I almost forgot the unemployment rate didn’t hit 10% until Obama took over….but thanks for showing up and enlightening us with your opinions

  6. scott says:

    right. 2009 came and the world went to crap instantly.

  7. The Humanist says:

    @ Mike Hudson – I’m younger and ten times healthier than your liver.

  8. The Humanist says:

    Shim longs for a President who knew how to take it easy….like George W. Bush who spent 1020 days (more than 1/3 of his presidency) on vacation. That counts Bush’s first year in office, where he took some much-needed time off after not-being-elected President…..to the tune of 96 days (41%) in his first 7 months in office, including the entire month of August 2001. Which was no problem as nothing important happened the following month….

  9. mike hudson says:

    it’s been more than a year since obama was elected president. thus far he has failed to close gitmo, failed to pass universal health care, failed to end the war in iraq and stands ready to escalate the unwinnable war in afghanistan. heckuva job, heckuva job. no wonder automatons like humorless love him! what some president did eight years ago is far more important, obviously, than what the current president isn’t doing now.

  10. The Humanist says:

    and it’s been almost a year since Hudson has put down the fifth long enough to hammer out another inane “Why hasn’t Obama accomplished this on my insane timetable?” post.

    I thought the President didn’t matter in our everyday lives, Brenda Starr?

  11. mike hudson says:

    obama said he would close gitmo immediately. he did not. he said he would pass universal health care in his first year. he has not. he said he would got us out of iraq in nine months, which he also has not. he promised these things to you, me and the world. i can’t stand a guy who makes promises he doesn’t keep. guys like that make my flesh crawl. and it doesn’t have anything to do with whether he’s the president or not. that such a simple position eludes you, dick cheese, merely reinforces my previous statements concerning your wingnuttiness.

  12. mike hudson says:

    actually, he said nine months when he was debating other dems then changed it to 16 months by the time he got around to debating mccain. so if you want to use the 16 months figure we’ll just say that he hasn’t not done it YET.
    at present, there are more than 130,000 u.s. troops in iraq, and obama has six months in which to get them out if he is to live up to his promise to the american people. as anyone familiar with military operations could tell you (chris smith?), moving that many soldiers and support material out of country in six months is a logistic impossibility.

  13. Byron says:

    And now Hudson has gone full Jonah Goldberg. Yeah I care tons about his opinion on what a true Democrat is. Yawn.

  14. scott says:

    maybe he was assuming the repubs would help him out? and not stand in the way, for the sake of standing in the way? if he can undo the damage done in the previous 8 years in his first year or two, that would be a miracle. Seems absurd to blame the guy who’s left to clean up the mess and give a free pass to the guys who made the original mess. very short memory.

  15. mike hudson says:

    as i’ve stated before, i don’t give a rat’s ass about what a “true democrat” is. it is you, byron, who have weighed in on the democratness of people like hillary clinton, geraldine ferraro and others who do not follow your strict dogma. it’s just that i hate a fucking liar.

  16. Byron says:

    I have never “weighed in on the democratness of people like hillary clinton or geraldine ferraro”, so tell me again who the fucking liar is.

    I’m reminded of when you complained that people on this site were such Obama-trons that they called Hillary Clinton a bitch. When it was pointed out that one and only one person had ever called Hilary a bitch here – your brother hank – you promptly . . . dropped the subject.

    Go make up some more stuff, OK?

  17. mike says:

    Hudson “it’s been more than a year since obama was elected president” your right a day more! I forgot he kicked that retard bush out the next day like a used diaper. Check the dumpster for your papers again, I think the old farts in the tower are using them for depends. Did you see how much the depends cost at Slipko’s? Say hi to that loser chandra for us.

  18. canisiusbringstheruckus says:

    Democrats didn’t just do bad in Erie County, we did poorly all over WNY. It’s part of a historical shift for the other party that always happens after a new President is elected.

    I give Lenihan credit that he was able to maintain the County Legislature and keep Poloncarz in office despite the wealth of a popular (for nothing) Republican County Executive.

  19. canisiusbringstheruckus says:

    *for being able to maintain.

    Just realized what a grammatical train wreck that sentence was.

  20. mike hudson says:

    actually, canisius, dems did bad all over the country. virginia repugs crushed the opposition in virginia, in new jersey obama made two personal appearances on behalf of john corzine, who lost by 5 points, and maine — which has gone dem in the last five presidential elections — overturned the state’s gay marriage law despite considerable out of state money and celebrity expended to keep it in place. in niagara county, incumbent dems lost in north tonawanda, lockport and lewiston, while in wheatfield they lost a heads up election with no incumbent. in the fifth legislative district, nick melson — an office boy of francine delmonte’s — lost by a landslide to vince sandonato, 23, in a district that’s been held by the dems as long as anyone can remember. combined with the disaster dems experienced in erie county, and the fact that the senate won’t have a health care bill ready to vote on until early next year, things look plenty bleak with the 2010 congressional elections now fast approaching.

  21. mike hudson says:

    humanist spent election night telling us how the maine ballot initiative was a sure thing, just like geoff edwards said on primary night that brown-kearns was going to be a real squeaker.

  22. mike hudson says:

    defeat of the maine ballot initiative, that is.

  23. Byron says:

    Yeah and just like Hudson told us that Hoffman was going to win easily in NY-23. Oops!

  24. Hank says:

    That’s OK Byron, I’d rather have a democrat in 23 that opposes the Public Option Healthcare plan like Owens, than a RINO with a union thug husband like scuzzafava, who proved her RINO status by endorsing the Democrat, and her being the “actual” Republican in the race.

    Voted for tax increases in the NY legislature over 100 times? That’s no republican, pal.

  25. Byron says:

    As 2 people have already said, Owens doesn’t oppose the public option. But just keep making stuff up like your buddy hudson, we enjoy it laughing at you 2 clowns.

  26. mike hudson says:

    so owens squeaked past a third-party candidate in the 23rd. a major accomplishment!

  27. Byron says:

    Didn’t say it was a major accomplishment. I said that YOU assured us all that Hoffman would win big, going so far as to laugh at the Humanist for suggesting that it would be close. Nice call there.

    • Alan Bedenko says:

      11/3/09:

      hoffman will win the 23rd, of course. that is not good for the dems, in that it shows that appearances by the likes of sarah palin and fred thompson can even work in bluer than blue new york state. to say he needs to win by double digits is just being a poor loser. also, if coupled with gubernatorial wins in virginia and new jersey, today will be seen as an indication of dem fortunes in 2010.

      in 1993, republicans christie todd whitman in new jersey and george allen in virginia captured their states’ governor’s mansions, and the following year brought the dramatic republican takeover of congress. hoffman’s sure thing election should also put an end to endless palaver about the relevance of minor party lines in new york state.

      11/1/09:

      hoffman needs what, 2 or 3 percent of the 20 percent scozzafava had in order to trounce owens. believe me, those republicans are not going to vote democratic all of a sudden. it is a republican district. sarah palin wins one in new york state. chris smith is shitting his diapers.

      11/1/09:

      got a whole lot more interesting? you’ve been interested in it for a month, alan. and afflicting us with updates, constant updates. so nobody gave a shit about your heroine repug dede scozzafava enough to donate two cents to her campaign. and nobody gave a shit about her enough to say they liked her in the polls. she sucked so bad that a guy who is a member of a party that was just invented and doesn’t even in exist in the vast majority of these united states managed to beat her by 15 percent in the polls, and now you think, that because she says she likes this guy instead of that guy, anyone’s gonna give a shit?
      that’s some political strategy, alan.

      looking forward to discussing this, the sheriff’s race and more on tuesday night.

      I guess my little scenario has actually come to pass.

      And just to rub it in, here’s what I wrote way back on 10/23:

      I assume “Big Cheese” is the President of the United States. I don’t know who “thugs” is supposed to refer to, but either way, it’s looking like NY-23 is going to be a Democratic pickup thanks to the teabaggers coming in from literally all over the country to tell the North Country to vote for Hoffman. Strategery!

  28. Byron says:

    Oh and the undecided’s broke 3 to 1 for Owens in the last few days before Tuesday, but that can’t have anything to do with Scozzafava’s endorsement of him because political genius hudson told us it couldn’t.

  29. Byron says:

    Hey, good call BP! Also, thanks for reminding me that hudson also went so far as to pre-gloat about how he was going to throw Hoffman-Palin’s victory in our face on Tuesday. I guess that chicken never hatched.

  30. mike says:

    Lets not forget “nick melson — an office boy of francine delmonte’s — lost by a landslide to vince sandonato, 23″ that was only 12 posts ago. Well Sandonato beat Melson, 1,012 to 804 is that considered a landslide? please enlighten me hudson, i know you consider yourself the betters or was that bitters.

    • TomJ says:

      Well Sandonato beating melson by 200+ votes is a blow out for these reasons:

      1. Its almost 3-1 dem to republican enrollment in that district and Sandonato is a Republican, running as a true Republican nontheless, and still walked away with 56% of the vote
      2. The seat was held by a Democrat for the last 30-50 years, not sure the exact years but more than 30, and to make it more clear, lets just agree that the seat has NEVER been held by a Republican until now
      3. His opponent had every big wig Dem backing him (Slaughter, Del Monte, the mayor, Sen Thompson, etc…)
      4. If thats not enough, just google the race and see what news articles you find, including non-Republican biased reports… the leaders are quoted as being more pissed off about losing that seat than any seat including the mayor races

      … just food for thought

  31. The Humanist says:

    Hank sez: “That’s OK Byron, I’d rather have a democrat in 23 that opposes the Public Option Healthcare plan like Owens…

    Yet another spot-on analysis from Hank, the rubber-selling, Red-State regurgitating assclown.

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