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Written on Thursday, April 23rd, 2009 at 5:15am by Alan Bedenko | 108 Comments

What Shepard Smith Said

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What other laws shall we ignore because it allegedly “works”?

Robbing a bank “works” as a means to enrich yourself, and murdering a witness “works” as a means to beat a criminal charge.

The right has, for years, accused the left of being anti-American socialist idiots, but I’ve heard more anti-American bile get spewed by the right in the last 3 months than I’ve heard from any other mainstream political grouping. Secession? Armed rebellion? Torture is fine? At least one Alabama congressman trying to pull a McCarthy lite?

No wonder the right can’t get elected and can’t get its shit together.

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  1. Byron says:
    April 27, 2009 at 2:04 pm

    Russy, the fact that they probably will not choose to prosecute obviously does not prove that what was done was legal. Even you can’t be stupid enough to make that argument. Prosecutors and the executive branch in general may choose not to prosecute criminal conduct for any number of reasons. Nixon wasn’t prosecuted either; I suppose he’s innocent as well?

  2. Byron says:
    April 27, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Oh and as I already said – Republicans were divided on immigration reform, divided on Bush’ spending, divided on NCLB. But on torturing prisoners – a completely unified front. What a pathetic, degenerate party.

  3. Russell says:
    April 27, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Sounds like some Democrats joined them.

    Nixon was pardoned. Everyone knew prosecution was forthcoming and the people that actually committed the acts were prosecuted, found guilty and imprisoned, so again, wrong analogy.

    No prosecution makes the acts, as I already stated, de facto legal. How you can state that something is horribly wrong, detestable, outrageously illegal and completely counter to everything we believe in, but at the sametime uncategorically state that no one who actually committed these horrendous acts will ever be punished, brought to justice, or even charged with any wrong doing whatsoever? Not even so much as a slap on the wrist. You really think that’s consistent? Sounds like acceptance and permissibility to me.

  4. Frankie says:
    April 27, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    Byron, give it up. Russell would sit there and argue the sky was green if he had to and there’d be absolutely nothing you or i could say that would get him to admit it’s blue on clear days and white or gray on cloudy days. His whole argument has boiled down to, there was no intent to cause pain and suffering. Never mind, of course, that inflicting pain and suffering is the whole point of the practices undertaken. You know it, i know it, and he knows it. He’s just being a troll.

  5. Byron says:
    April 27, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Yes, from now on I think I’ll let Carmine DeFacto’s torture cheerleading speak for itself.

  6. Byron says:
    April 27, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Agreed; I won’t waste any more time on Carmine DeFacto the torture cheerleader.

  7. Russell says:
    April 28, 2009 at 11:02 am

    If a scientist declared the sky is blue, you kids would ask what his party affiliation is before you decide whether or not to believe him.

    What I’m saying is in line with the former Director of the CIA and the current Director of National Intelligence. It’s coming straight from the recently released memos. What you’re saying is in line with grandstanding politicians, former lower level officers who have an axe to grind, and bleeding heart bloggers completely removed from the situation. Oh yes, I can’t forget, you have Jesus and William Shakespeare on your side, too. Good for you.

  8. Frankie says:
    April 28, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    So you’re in line with someone who claims he didn’t commit war crimes, and someone whose mouth you’re putting words into.

    I’m in line with the attorney general, John McCain, and 71% of the American people. In addition to, of course, grandstanding politicians, former lower level officers who have an axe to grind, and bleeding heart bloggers.

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/04/waterboarding-is-torture.html

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