How not to text, explained

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It’s been a big week for the group chat. 

On Monday, the Atlantic’s editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg published a story revealing that National Security Advisor Michael Waltz accidentally added him to a Signal thread where top Trump cabinet members were discussing upcoming military strikes in Yemen. 

First, the Trump administration denied that top Trump officials shared “war plans” in the chat. Then, on Wednesday, the Atlantic published more screenshots of the conversation – titled “Houthi PC small group” – in which US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth detailed the precise timing and coordination of American fighter jet take-offs for the strike. 

Now, a federal watchdog group is suing members of the administration in the group chat for violating the Federal Records Act. Messier still, the federal judge overseeing the lawsuit is already a Trump administration enemy, thanks to his ruling that they must stop deporting some Venezuelan migrants. The whole security breach has thrown the White House into a state of simultaneous denial and disarray. 

As the fallout from the now-infamous Signal chat continues to unfold, Sean Rameswaram sought a different type of lesson from this week’s news: a lesson on texting. For Today, Explained, co-host Rameswaram spoke with Washington Post internet culture reporter Tatum Hunter about the do’s and don’ts of texting in the modern age, and the messaging etiquette lessons we could all learn from the Signal group chat fiasco. 

Click the link below to hear the whole conversation. The following is a transcript edited for length and clarity.

Tatum, you are brave enough to tell people how to text?

Well, I think that our lives play out increasingly online. 

Today when you say something like “internet culture,” that’s just culture a lot of the time, right? You talk about texting etiquette — like, yeah, that’s just how we communicate. The internet trickles down into our lives and changes our relationships, and this is contentious for people. 

Should we start with the do’s or should we start with the don’ts?

Let’s start with the don’ts because I think that’s spicier.

Okay, great. For the haters, we’ll start with the don’ts. 

Three big don’ts. One don’t is: Don’t use group texts for something that they weren’t created for.

Everybody has that group text from a bachelorette party in like, 2018 that people will still pop into to share photos of their kids. Those have to die once you’re done with the reason that you created them. 

If you have a group chat with your parents because you’re related, that can keep going forever, because you’ll always be related. But if you have a group chat to plan a project or a trip or do introductions, that needs to be laid to rest once that planning is over. 

Another don’t is: Don’t get all offended when people have a different texting style than you. 

Oh…

I see this come up all the time. I write for an audience that’s a little bit older and people get really ruffled when others don’t use, for example, proper capitalization, punctuation. 

And then you can flip the script and you’ll see younger folks getting frustrated and making fun of the way their bosses or relatives text — when they’re spelling things out, using ridiculous acronyms, using the Gen X ellipsis, where you’re… like… not sure if they’re mad at you… because they’re putting ellipses into text messages where they don’t belong. 

Every generation has its quirks with the way that it is typing out messages. And I think we’re past the point where we’re going to argue about, “Should we be spelling everything right? Should this be formal? Should this be informal?” You have to let everyone live.

Number three? You said you had three big ones.

Oh my gosh, I have so many don’ts. I have more don’ts than I have do’s. I guess that’s what etiquette is. If we all did everything right, we wouldn’t need it. 

But: Don’t be a wet blanket. 

Obviously, texting is going to be shorter, drier than sending a voice note, than having a phone call. But you want to be matching people’s energy, especially if you use texting to stay in touch. Don’t be that guy who’s sending “okay,” or “thumbs up.”

Can I tell you about one of my pet peeves when it comes to this particular don’t?Yes!

When you send someone you love something great you saw online — an article, a meme, a joke, a photo, and they go: seen it. 

I’m like, if you saw it, then why didn’t you send it to me? Or if you saw it, just gimme the reaction you had when you saw it. “Seen it” is not useful to me. I don’t care that you planted your flag on this meme before I did.

Also, the goal was a discussion. Imagine if you were with somebody and you were like, “Hey, I just saw a news story about these high-level government people leaking their Signal chat” and someone was like, “Heard it.” Like, “No, I get that, it’s news. I wanna talk about it.” Memes are kind of the same.

Yes and, yes and. 

Okay, I have one more don’t: No scary mysteries. Don’t send a text, like, “Hey, can we talk?”

Oh, I hate that too. My parents do that. “ Call me as soon as you can.” And I call and it’s like, “Hey, so do you want to eat tacos or…”

Where the urgency is just not matched to the content. You should say why you’re reaching out.

Okay, we’ve done a lot of don’t. Let’s do a little do.

One really nice thing to do when you’re texting is to tell people what you want from them. Maybe one person wants to be in touch a lot and the other doesn’t. Maybe one person wants to talk about more serious, heavy emotional stuff over text, and the other person’s really uncomfortable with that. But exactly like your in-person relationships, people can’t read your mind. You have to tell them what you want. 

You know, what you’re reminding me of is the voice memos, or as I call them sometimes, “voice memoirs.” They can be really short and punchy and hilarious… But sometimes they’re like eight minutes long. And you’re just like, this is like work now. You just sent me a whole podcast I have to add to my queue. Maybe we should establish at some point in the texting whether we want those or not, maybe?

Absolutely. And again, just like any other thing in your friendships and relationships, it might require some compromise. So maybe for the person who’s less texty, that means you’re shooting an emoji, a thumbs up, a one-sentence thing saying, saw it, care about you, I’ll get back to this. Right? That’s a nice compromise. Or maybe if you’re the person who you know tends to get offended by this, you draw some boundary, like, “Hey, if you can’t respond to me on time, maybe we should stick to phone calls.” Right? It’s not embarrassing, I think, to talk about your texting life as if it matters, because it does!

I like that. Be bold. Okay, any more do’s that you really want to share with the people out there?

Do stay grounded in reality. Remember the world we live in, and remember that if you’re in, you know, an encrypted Signal chat — or if you’re in your private iMessage group with your best friends — that doesn’t mean that you have carte blanche to say stuff that you would never want the world to see. 

Mm.

We’ve seen again and again and again how screenshots of messages — it’s not sacred. It can get out.There was some analysis and chattering after those screenshots leaked from the Signal chat about, you know, how Vance had signaled that he might have a different opinion than Trump on a matter of foreign policy. Now he has to show up to work and be like, “Hi Donald.” 

So it’s important to remember that nothing is private, nothing is sacred once you have written it in a text.

We’re going to see where the blowback for this group chat getting out ends up, with someone losing their job, with a federal inquiry, who knows. What’s clear is it won’t soon be forgotten. Do you think it’s for the best that we all had a moment to just reflect on the group chat?

There’s an optimist inside of me who likes to believe that this will be good for society, that we’re all reflecting on the group chat. However, now I’ve lived too long, right? 

So, Bezos’s text leak — we’re like, oh man, we’ll never forget this. Biden leaves his Venmo public. Vance leaves his blog public. Venmo transactions from Matt Gaetz. Most recently we saw that Mike Waltz of Signal Chat fame left his Venmo friends list public. People find it and they analyze it. And it happens again and again and again to politicians, to celebrities, to CEOs. So now I’m starting to lose faith. How many high-profile embarrassing instances of our digital footprints getting out of our own control will it take before everybody pumps the brakes? Because it’s a hard-learned lesson to just kind of remember that digital stuff is forever, even in the safest of places.

I have to say in light of this week’s news, Tatum, we are skipping a huge don’t, which is: Don’t add people to a group chat against their will.

(Laughs] I need to add another bullet point to this guide and say, don’t add the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic.

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Arkansas farmer Scott Brown told CNN it's unclear how he or other agriculture producers will survive Trump's ongoing tariff war, especially as the fall harvest begins.

"I hope to break even, but I mean, we don't know," Brown said. "We're not cutting soybeans yet, and I don't know what the yield is. We're just finishing up corn. I'm a pretty low-debt-load farmer. I farm 800 acres. My equipment's all paid for. I do it all by myself. I'm a first-generation farmer, so I don't have as big of problems as a lot of the guys do. But, I mean, I have friends that farm thousands of acres, 5,000, 10,000, 11,000 acres. They've got worlds of problems. I mean, I don't know that there's any way to yield yourself out of this."

For his friends, the tariff fallout could mean losing everything.

"I don't think that the average American understands when you go down to the bank and get a crop loan, you put all your equipment up, all your equity in your ground, you put your home up, your pickup truck, everything up," he said. "And if they can't pay out and if they've rolled over any debt from last year, they're going to call the auctioneer and they're going to line everything up and they're going to sell it."

Trump is reportedly considering a potential bailout for farmers, a key Republican voting bloc. But that's not enough, Scott said.

"Well, the stopgap needs to come because they've kind of painted the farmer in a corner," he added. "I mean, I want trade, not aid. I need a market. I need a place to sell this stuff. I can work hard enough and make a product. If you give me someplace to sell it, I'll take care of myself, but they've painted us in a corner with this China deal and China buying soybeans. I mean, they've torn a market in half."

China — the biggest buyer — has made zero soybean orders this year. Instead, they've pivoted to purchasing soybeans from South American countries, including Argentina, Paraguay, and Bolivia. These countries plan to expand planting acreage for their crops and focus on planting soon for the 2025 and 2026 crops in the Southern Hemisphere.

The price per bushel of soybeans has also dropped, he added.

"The farmer can't continue to produce a crop below the cost of production. And that's where we're at. And we don't have anywhere to sell it. We're in a tariff war with China. We're in a tariff war with everybody else. I mean, where do they want me to market this stuff?" Scott asked.

This uncertainty also makes it hard to plan for 2026.

"Farming is done in a Russian roulette fashion to say a better set of words," Scott said. "If you pay out, then you get to go again. If you've got enough equity and you don't pay out, you can roll over debt. There's lots of guys farming that have between $400 and $700,000 worth of rollover debt. You know, and then and then you compound the problem with the tariffs. Look at this. When we had USAID, we provided 40% of the humanitarian food for the world. That's all grain and food bought from farmers, from vegetable farmers in the United States. The row crop farmers and grain and everything. So we abandoned that deal. And China accelerates theirs. So now I've got a tariff war that's killing my market."

He also wants the president to hear his message.

"I hope he's listening because, you know, agriculture is the backbone of rural America," Scott said. "For every dollar in agriculture, you get $8 in your rural community. I mean, we help pay taxes on schools, roads. We're the guys that keep the park store open, we're the guy that keeps the local co-op open, that 20 guys work at, and the little town I live in, we have a chicken plant, about 600 chicken houses, except for the school and the hospital. Almost our entire town of 7,000."

Agriculture is tied to everything in rural America, he explained.

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